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After a two week absence, we are back! This episode features podcast contributor Alex Julian talking with George Heiler, Kevin Murphy, and Tristan Gaynor. The are three ASU students (not graduates, as Doug mistakenly says in the intro) who were involved in starting a chapter of Phi Kappa Theta, a Catholic fraternity, at Arizona State University.

The sponsor for this episode is The Bearded Savant. Live handsome!

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